PROVO, Utah - Norm Chow is 66 now, and while the University of Hawaii football coach still has his buddies at Brigham Young, he jokes that their game-day morning jog around Provo has slowed to a walk.
"That will bring back a lot of memories as we solve every problem in the world there is to solve on our jog," Chow said as he prepared to face his former team for the first time as a head coach today.
Right now, there are plenty of problems for the Warriors.
Norm Chow was on the Brigham Young coaching staff from 1973 to 1999, and helped the Cougars win a national title in 1984.
Hawaii (1-2) set a record for points allowed at Aloha Stadium on Saturday in a 69-24 loss to Nevada. The seven touchdowns by the Wolf Pack's Stefphon Jefferson tied a record for a game involving two Bowl Subdivision teams.
Chow won't get much sympathy from the Cougars (2-2), despite his history at BYU - he was on the staff for 27 years, from 1973 to 1999, eventually becoming offensive coordinator and assistant head coach, and helped the team win a national title in 1984.
The first-year UH coach stirred things up in July when he reiterated the university's position that a returning missionary, defensive back/
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return specialist Michael Wads-worth, could transfer to any school but BYU and intimated the Cougars engaged in unfair recruiting.
BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall denied the accusations when Wads-worth was allowed to join the team in August as a walk-on while waiting a year to play.
"Never has happened, nor will it happen," Mendenhall said of illegal recruiting - he reiterated those comments this week.
"It was just a unique situation where a young man went on his mission, and as many do, (when they) come back, want to be at BYU," said Mendenhall, citing faith, football and marriage as reasons often given.
"We won't recruit when they're on their missions. And when players want to transfer, the first thing that is usually signaled is foul play. But we won't, didn't and haven't violated any rules, nor will we in the future. It's just unfortunate that anyone might think that we did."
Mendenhall said he doesn't expect the controversy to affect his relationship with Chow.
"Everyone makes mistakes and I'll greet him before the game just like I would anybody," Mendenhall said.
Chow has preferred to look forward, not back.
"I've been back three times since we left Provo," he said of wins over BYU as coordinator at Southern California (in 2004) and Utah (2011) and a 59-0 loss as a UCLA assistant in 2008. "I had a very good experience in Provo, enjoyed my time there. I have a lot of nice memories, but we moved on from there. It's not about all that. It's about our team. We're struggling."
The Cougars aren't exactly lighting it up, either.
After dominating Washington State and Weber State, BYU has endured stinging back-to-back road losses to Utah and No. 24 Boise State by a combined four points.
Quarterback Riley Nelson is questionable because of a sore back, and freshman Taysom Hill will start if Nelson isn't deemed ready.
BYU ranks 91st nationally in total offense, while UH is 116th in scoring defense, allowing 40 points per game.
"It's a high-risk, high-reward defense," said Cougars offensive coordinator Brandon Doman, "so they'll take a lot of risk and hopefully we don't give them any rewards."
Doman was coached by Chow for two seasons (1998-1999) at BYU.
"He's one of the greatest offensive minds of all time," Doman said of Chow.
So how does the former student feel he compares?
"I'm not the greatest offensive mind of all time," Doman said with a laugh. "I'd love for somebody to say that when I'm his age, but right now I'm a long ways away."
Chow said he's not worried about the reception he'll receive after so many years wearing blue and white.
"I have no idea," he said. "Again, it's not about me."